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madbazza95
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Anyone read this yet ?
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Odin
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madbazza95 said:
Yup I read it today :lol: , I really started something with that first letter last month 8) .
Bruce was a bit more polite than I was :lol: :lol: :lol: .
rob
Read it and agree with it.....they take the p*ss with prices although i'm sure shoddy standards of work are not exclusive to tuners....J-Tuner point out that more tuner customers are happy than not i don't think that would be the case if those happy customers realised just how much over the odds they were paying.
I wonder if the great tuner rip off subject has reached a lot of other forums or if most modded car enthusiasts are still being led up the garden path by big and small name tuners?
Having learnt a very expensive lesson i will never be going back to one.
I wonder if the great tuner rip off subject has reached a lot of other forums or if most modded car enthusiasts are still being led up the garden path by big and small name tuners?
Having learnt a very expensive lesson i will never be going back to one.
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madbazza95
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tuner
i wonder which tuner this is :?: :roll:
i wonder which tuner this is :?: :roll:
chrisniss91
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Looking through the magazines i am surprised with how many tuners there actually are now. There are loads now saying specialist's which i've never heard of before :?
Somebody gonna give me a clue?
pulsar_stu
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We have a tuner by us that started off as a cossie specialist, then a few years down the line he changed his cossie that he owned for a skyline so he decided he was a skyline specialist :roll: He has since changed his car to an evo and now he is a jap specialist :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: All this changing has taken place over the last 4 to 5 years :roll: :lol: i wonder what he might specialise in next :lol: :lol: :lol: Most tuners dont know how to tune the apexi products, so they blag it :roll: and you end up either taking it back umpteen times or having your engine go bang :roll: and then its not thier fault :roll: it was something you did :evil: i think thier should be a regulator or some kind of official that keeps a check on these companys that are opening up as so called profesionals, to give them some sort of grading!!!!!!!!
The problem is its so easy to get into, and potentially so much money to be made.chrisniss91 said:
You phone and register a limited company name for £150 with companys house.
You call part suppliers and open accounts and negotiate credit limits.
Find and rent workshop premises.
Stick a few company logo on cars you didn't build to effectivly palm it off as your own work.
The next step is to sound like you really know what your talking about, maybe even make up a personal background in motorsport.
Stick a few adds in the magazines.....And thats it, your a tuner! free to carry out over priced, shoddy work and then when is all goes wrong you can simply blaim it on anyone else who has worked on it previously.
chrisniss91
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I know all about engine going bang due to a certain tuner :evil:pulsar_stu said:
Like you said Dean its way too easy to set up business as a so called 'tuner' :? I can think of quite a few places that are summed up by everything you said abovedeank93 said:
And i wouldnt even let them loose on my wheelbarrow, let alone a car :lol: Its the people that arent very mechanically minded and rely on tuners i feel sorry for, like Bruce said in that letter if they sourced the parts from elsewhere and paid a proper engine builder to do the work they'd save thousands! And probably have a better engine at the end of it too
zia
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you know i alway's wanted to open meself garage, i could name it "bodgit and scarpa" has nice ring to it, don,t it? :lol: :lol: .
i have to say i ve seen some shoddy workmanship in time to varing degree's of stupidty..i might aswell be honest and say occasionally i myself have amazed how stupid i can be sometime's.but at least i can rest in the fact having never ripped somebody off, or gave incorrect information,opinion.
zia
i have to say i ve seen some shoddy workmanship in time to varing degree's of stupidty..i might aswell be honest and say occasionally i myself have amazed how stupid i can be sometime's.but at least i can rest in the fact having never ripped somebody off, or gave incorrect information,opinion.
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stuart rawlinson
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Yep im going to write in mainly on the stupid price we pay for parts, thats y i found the parts my self from over seas,
And i feel for bruce as i remember us talking (email) about all the trouble HE was having wt is 2.2 rebuild as we were both using Farndon kits, but dif tuners, Guinea pig comes to mind but at Bruce"s expense
The said tuner Try"d to charge a mate ov mine the hour that is car sat there with no one working on it while the monkey had dinner
11 till 3 o clock thats 4hours at ****££ O no says mate thats 3 hours "11 till 1"
dinner then 2 till 3 "thats 3 hours"
And if your charging by the hour ( not a fixed price) thats open to theft by deception um yes sorry i did"nt do the bill
worth a few bob that over the years nicccccccccce
one to watch for that one Top tip :twisted:
So for that a lone the said tuner is a Wa**er
And they moan about us in the building trade ya right
Thats my rant over somthing i dont do a lot ov but i feel the need
a anon :? 8) so go on sue me
And i feel for bruce as i remember us talking (email) about all the trouble HE was having wt is 2.2 rebuild as we were both using Farndon kits, but dif tuners, Guinea pig comes to mind but at Bruce"s expense
The said tuner Try"d to charge a mate ov mine the hour that is car sat there with no one working on it while the monkey had dinner
11 till 3 o clock thats 4hours at ****££ O no says mate thats 3 hours "11 till 1"
dinner then 2 till 3 "thats 3 hours"
And if your charging by the hour ( not a fixed price) thats open to theft by deception um yes sorry i did"nt do the bill
worth a few bob that over the years nicccccccccce
one to watch for that one Top tip :twisted:
So for that a lone the said tuner is a Wa**er
And they moan about us in the building trade ya right
Thats my rant over somthing i dont do a lot ov but i feel the need
a anon :? 8) so go on sue me
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stokie1
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bit off topic but what is your opinion of the quality of Fardon cranks,
looking at a EN40B steel crank but heard they dont deliver on time if
only after one unit off them
looking at a EN40B steel crank but heard they dont deliver on time if
only after one unit off them
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stuart rawlinson
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Farndon
UM i wonder who they make the cranks and rods for ship them out to Japan, who then stick a few £££ on them plus shipping and tax then sell them back to us in the UK
Mad world we live in if you dont shop around
Made me a one off crank and rods no probs it did take a bit of time but they do work it all out send you the drawings to look at and sign etc etc
if its a couple of quid your saving and times a prob its not worth it
if its a couple of hundred then ill wait
Stu
UM i wonder who they make the cranks and rods for ship them out to Japan, who then stick a few £££ on them plus shipping and tax then sell them back to us in the UK
Mad world we live in if you dont shop around
Made me a one off crank and rods no probs it did take a bit of time but they do work it all out send you the drawings to look at and sign etc etc
if its a couple of quid your saving and times a prob its not worth it
if its a couple of hundred then ill wait
Stu
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jiw
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I guess this is CPP Motorsport, i can vouch for Gaz no end, took my evo down to him and he sorted a lot out, i got it back much quicker drove better due to his own alignment configuration and the price i got including a major service 3" exhaust and Forge actuator was unbelievably cheap, anyone worth their salt can apply their knowledge of motorsport to all types of car and have a success...pulsar_stu said:
Just it seems theirs too many half job harrys jumping onboard and calling themselves "tuners".
GTIROC has been the origin of quite a few so far :roll: :lol:
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stokie1
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stuart rawlinson said:Farndon
UM i wonder who they make the cranks and rods for ship them out to Japan, who then stick a few £££ on them plus shipping and tax then sell them back to us in the UK
Mad world we live in if you dont shop around
Made me a one off crank and rods no probs it did take a bit of time but they do work it all out send you the drawings to look at and sign etc etc
if its a couple of quid your saving and times a prob its not worth it
if its a couple of hundred then ill wait
Stu
take it HKs or Jun as Tomei crank made out of dog sh*t and glue
cost not an option, but heard 6 weeks turn around = 6 months