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S-GTI-R
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as above really 
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GTI-R Kid
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Does paint from a can found in a car accessory shop work or does the heat destroy it?ashills said:
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S-GTI-R
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wot u mean use a 2 pack?
Fire & skill
Vintage member
2 pack is synthetic paint and its flexible, the paint you get in halfords is cellulose based in fact all aerosol paint is cellulose. 2 pack is ideal for painting plastic as it wont flake off - it sticks like sh!tt to a shovel
gtirx2
Active Member
I am about to give this a go in the next couple of days and was wondering if you guys primed it first or just went straight on with the paint on bare metal?Also what did you do about the black bit around the plug holes did you mask that part of or just sand it down and paint it all?
I am planing to paint mine in the same colour as the car in kj7 white but do you think the paint will discolour over time with do heat?and who else has painted there rocker cover in 2 pack paint and how has yours stood up over time?
I am planing to paint mine in the same colour as the car in kj7 white but do you think the paint will discolour over time with do heat?and who else has painted there rocker cover in 2 pack paint and how has yours stood up over time?
Hi again mategtirx2 said:
I've done exactly what your about to do. You could try Dave as Lee suggests above or if you fancy having a crack at it yourself and you have the equiptment.
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I called the number on the Logo and he was willing to sell me the paints I needed in the approx quantities I would need for the Job.
If youv'e stripped it back to the Ali, you'll need to etch prime it first then a few coats of high build primer (flatting it off between coats) then a coat of your choosen 2K colour, then as many coats of 2K lacquer you need to give a nice deep luster.
If you don't have the equiptment you can come round here and use mine
Steve
gtirx2
Active Member
Cheers for the reply mate,No i am fine for all the equipment and i have most of the paint i need as well but i am glad you brought up the etch primer my old man was on about that and i was not to sure,i asume you only need the etch primer because the cover is made of alloy and you need that for the paint to stick well.
Also i am not sure if i am useing lacquer yet as the paint i have is all ready a gloss finich,but i think i can still lacquer on top if i want a shiner and tougher finich
Also i am not sure if i am useing lacquer yet as the paint i have is all ready a gloss finich,but i think i can still lacquer on top if i want a shiner and tougher finich
MORF114
Active Member
2 pack wont stick to anything it will flake off the same as any other paint apart from truck paint everything needs to be keyed before paint is applied or it will flake off especially with the heat off the engine it will flake off even easier, you have to put down plastic primer onto plasitc or it will flake off even faster and for very flexible parts you have to put down a adhesive which has a flexible compound in the paint to stop the paint cracking (cant remember what its called )
out of all the paint companies ive used RM,SIKKENS,STANDOX,DUPONT,GLASURIT used all solvent and waterbased, none of them will stick without some sort of primer coat used before application to any surface. 2k have high isocyanates which arent exactly very healthy so where a mask. After spraying 12 cars a day (full resprays) in work with all spray equiptment i have a headache FROM THE FUMES!! WHO NEEDS DRUGS.
Quick Guide.
1. Take off rocker cover
2.sand with 240 grit to get rid of deep scratches dont go lower than 240grit as it is very gritty and causes deep scratches and will make the finished product if painting a silvery colour will show all the scratches.
3.600 grit wet flat the whole thing dont have to take down to bare metal its totally up to you.
4.etch the whole cover (if metal is showing through) wait to dry (untill its matted off) give it 2-3 coats of high build primer (if it needs it you can paint straight over the etch with your colour of choice if you are using a metalic i would high build prime it if using a direct gloss solid colour its thick enough to hide scratches that metalics show up.
5.spray a guide coat (a fine mist of any colour can use charcoal if you want to) over the primer this will show up orange peel and any other imperfections.
6.wet sand or dry sand once the primer is dry 600-800 grit dont really need to go higher than 800 sand out all imperfections shown up by guide coat if you rub through to metal you will have to etch again before final application.(if using a silvery colour paint use 800 grit.)
7.clean off cover with prepsol or wipe with thinners (dont use industrial thinners as it can depending on product used wipe off your paint!) to get rid of oil and finger print marks as they can cause problems with paint adhesion.
8.Now the best part blast away with your colour of choice.
9.If using cob (clear over base) wait for the base to dry all the way through before applying the clear (get a tack rag from a paint distributor to tack off your base coat before you clear, if you dont know what a tack rag is its a sticky rag that picks up bits of dirt or droplets of dry base coat on the surface very very good to have one.) all paint systems are different for clear applications so its up to you how many coats you give but dont really need to give it more than 3 depending how thin or thick you apply it .
Quick guide for people who dont know anything but want to paint rocker cover themselves.
out of all the paint companies ive used RM,SIKKENS,STANDOX,DUPONT,GLASURIT used all solvent and waterbased, none of them will stick without some sort of primer coat used before application to any surface. 2k have high isocyanates which arent exactly very healthy so where a mask. After spraying 12 cars a day (full resprays) in work with all spray equiptment i have a headache FROM THE FUMES!! WHO NEEDS DRUGS.
Quick Guide.
1. Take off rocker cover
2.sand with 240 grit to get rid of deep scratches dont go lower than 240grit as it is very gritty and causes deep scratches and will make the finished product if painting a silvery colour will show all the scratches.
3.600 grit wet flat the whole thing dont have to take down to bare metal its totally up to you.
4.etch the whole cover (if metal is showing through) wait to dry (untill its matted off) give it 2-3 coats of high build primer (if it needs it you can paint straight over the etch with your colour of choice if you are using a metalic i would high build prime it if using a direct gloss solid colour its thick enough to hide scratches that metalics show up.
5.spray a guide coat (a fine mist of any colour can use charcoal if you want to) over the primer this will show up orange peel and any other imperfections.
6.wet sand or dry sand once the primer is dry 600-800 grit dont really need to go higher than 800 sand out all imperfections shown up by guide coat if you rub through to metal you will have to etch again before final application.(if using a silvery colour paint use 800 grit.)
7.clean off cover with prepsol or wipe with thinners (dont use industrial thinners as it can depending on product used wipe off your paint!) to get rid of oil and finger print marks as they can cause problems with paint adhesion.
8.Now the best part blast away with your colour of choice.
9.If using cob (clear over base) wait for the base to dry all the way through before applying the clear (get a tack rag from a paint distributor to tack off your base coat before you clear, if you dont know what a tack rag is its a sticky rag that picks up bits of dirt or droplets of dry base coat on the surface very very good to have one.) all paint systems are different for clear applications so its up to you how many coats you give but dont really need to give it more than 3 depending how thin or thick you apply it .
Quick guide for people who dont know anything but want to paint rocker cover themselves.
gtirx2
Active Member
Well i have finiched painting me rocker cover and i am pretty happy with the finich, apart from the odd bit of dust and 1 hair :lol: its come out pretty good8)
Well here are some pics sorry about the quality my camara is poo.
Etch primed
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/rockerPIC001.jpg
primed then sanded
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/rockerPIC006.jpg
finiched
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/rocker.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/dPIC008.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/dPIC012.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/dPIC013.jpg
Looks a bit green in the pics but it is actuley white:lol: :lol: :lol:
apart from the odd bit of dust and 1 hair :lol: its come out pretty good8) Well here are some pics sorry about the quality my camara is poo.
Etch primed
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/rockerPIC001.jpg
primed then sanded
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/rockerPIC006.jpg
finiched
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/rocker.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/dPIC008.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/dPIC012.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m114/gtirx2/dPIC013.jpg
Looks a bit green in the pics but it is actuley white:lol: :lol: :lol:
Wasn't expecting that colour for some reason, don't know why ? Prolly cos I spent so long doing mine black
Good Job though, well done
Good Job though, well done
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321_GO
Guest
I had mine painted Gold, colour matched to my wheels, but as it heats up a little bit the colour should darken a bit. So in your case it may go a slight shade of grey.
Nah, no specks of dust for megtirx2 said:
................................fricken great 4" long Alsation hairs, twigs, feathers and woodchips but no microscopic particals of dust :?