possibly another great idea!

[pulsarboby]

i was thinking the other day about cooling and charge temps and think i may have come up with a fantastic cheapskate idea:-D

simply go down a plumbers merchants and buy a pipe freeze kit with spray and foam bandage cost about £11

wrap the bandage around the ic pipework to plenum and spray it so the air is instantly cooled.
it lasts for around 45 minutes and must surely bring down charge temps by a huge amount and in order could save your engine on trackdays etc, everytime your out just give the bandage a little spray8)
im sure this will work and il be doing it to my car when its all back together again for sure.
another bobby dazzler bargain cheap fix lol

 

[fubar andy]

i was thinking the other day about cooling and charge temps and think i may have come up with a fantastic cheapskate idea:-D

simply go down a plumbers merchants and buy a pipe freeze kit with spray and foam bandage cost about £11

wrap the bandage around the ic pipework to plenum and spray it so the air is instantly cooled.
it lasts for around 45 minutes and must surely bring down charge temps by a huge amount and in order could save your engine on trackdays etc, everytime your out just give the bandage a little spray8)
im sure this will work and il be doing it to my car when its all back together again for sure.
another bobby dazzler bargain cheap fix lol

Err…

Those freeze jackets are only about 12 inches long so cooling wouldn’t really have much of an effort/effect unless you bough about 20 of them and covered all the pipe work.

To be honest Bob, you might as well buy an old fire extinguisher, a cheap regulator, make your own spray bar and connect the unit together.
When cooling is an issue, press the button or turn the regulator to spray your intercooler.

It’s much more effective and if you know who to speak to it or get parts cheap then it should be very cost effective.

 

[Trip]

does this kit work with C02 ?

If so, C02 is very good to decipate oxygen (Fire extinguisher) . If it gets ingested in the engine (and it will), it will lower the BHP.

what some locals do, they use a C02 Fire extinguisher on the IC.. wait for some time until the C02 clears out and go to stage.

 

[Fire & skill]

get some 1/4 copper pipe, wrap it tightly around the pipework, cover as much area as you can and as tight as possible, keep one end open, on the other end you will need a capillary tube approx 1/16" fit an 1/8" shraeder valve fitting and attach that to a solenoid. finally get some liquid c02 and attatch it to the system that you have made, if you were really clever you could fit a 12v electronic temp controller and have that open and close the solenoid valve, otherwise run it straight off a switch.

liquid c02 injection is good for -50 degrees.

the only downside to this is that if you run it too long you could get ice build up inside the I/C pipework.



maybe I'll make one up and put it on youtube

 

[Trip]

you are missing the whole point guys.. you need to use C02 while idling and not while driving.

check out this article

http://www.cryofuzion.com/spraybar.htm

 

[Fire & skill]

sorry trip, im not missing any point, what I mean is you can do it either way, either fit it to the car or just make a quick connection, then you can remove the c02 from the car - get it to a good temp first obviously.

the system I was thinking of was indirect cooling so the c02 will never be in the engine.

so you could still cool the I/C pipework while driving, you need to beware though you will get more condensation and possibly ice build up

 

[Trip]

you would still need to release the C02 to free air which will be ingested from the air filter into the engine.

You can plumb a pipe to the back of the car to release the C02 on your opponents

 

[Trip]

 

[Fire & skill]

You can plumb a pipe to the back of the car to release the C02 on your opponents

thats what I was thinking

then they could suck the c02 in

 

[mynheers_a_pint]

was an idea similar to this recently broached by a forum member?

Using the aircon pump to 'super cool' intake temps?

I'm fairly certain everyone poopooed the idea and it was a rather laughable concept but atleast you wouldn't need to keep topping the system up with CO2.

 

[Fire & skill]

was an idea similar to this recently broached by a forum member?

Using the aircon pump to 'super cool' intake temps?

I'm fairly certain everyone poopooed the idea and it was a rather laughable concept but atleast you wouldn't need to keep topping the system up with CO2.

it is a crap idea, dont get me wrong I could knock something up, but any gains you make will just be drained by the power needed to run the compressor. all you could do is run the aircon to cool whislt idling, then switch it off when on the move, I have another idea though

 

[mynheers_a_pint]

it is a crap idea, dont get me wrong I could knock something up, but any gains you make will just be drained by the power needed to run the compressor. all you could do is run the aircon to cool whislt idling, then switch it off when on the move, I have another idea though

i thought it might be worth adding that the specific person was given a good e-toeing for his retarded ideas.

Some people should remain on their medication.

And some should be deprived of the internet completly.

 

[geoff pine]

The real answer is to change the fuel you use on track Bob and start using this bio fuel is it (e85)the claimed fastest evo in the states use it. He reconds it has much better cooling propertys this guy in the states says it works out cheaper than race gas as its only a track car he just increased every thing on his fuel system by 30% and had it re/maped when i get back to the uk i will post up the artical.

 

[pulsarboby]

think your all missing the point here being the simplicity and cost.
you get the bandage with the kit and this kits designed to FREEZE water now whether it be 12'' or 18'' of bandage on the return to plenum it must significantly reduce the charge temps just by spraying the bandage as it will freeze it for around 45 minutes at a time, the air passing through must surely be cooled a considerable amount.

for the sake of £11 i will definately be trying it and once my new engine is fitted il stick it on the rollers and do a run without the pipe freezer and one with to see if there are any bhp gains.
i cant see any reason why this will not work, it certainly can do no harm!

 

[noriek2003]

the reason a exchanger works is due to the fins taking the heat out of what ever is passing through it, with a pipe there obviously are no fins so any effects wont be so great, you have to remember that the air is moving pretty fast, water in a pipe isn't unless a tap is on and freezes solid when you use the kit.

it might work, but wouldn't be as efficient as spraying the intercooler fins i wouldn't have thought, still at £11 its a cheap enough experiment.

 

[icecool70]

Someone told me about those kits you are talking about from a plumbers bob and said exactly what your saying but it went in one ear and out the other which is typical of me just dismissed the idea and fort nothing of it,so will be interesting to see what results you will get. think he was a plumber come to think of it and he owned a pulsar but dont no if he tried it himself. cant see what harm it would do to try it. goodluck

 

[fubar andy]

the reason a exchanger works is due to the fins taking the heat out of what ever is passing through it, with a pipe there obviously are no fins so any effects wont be so great, you have to remember that the air is moving pretty fast,

it might work, but wouldn't be as efficient as spraying the intercooler fins i wouldn't have though, still at £11 its a cheap enough experiment.

What I tried to say, but better :thumb: