shit brakes!!

stevie leese

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yeah, i felt a bit bad afterwards so told her id buy her some stain remover tomorrow if any of you know of anything good that gets blood out of wool lol!
 
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pulsarboby

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i know what you mean about overly crap brakes as weve come across it a few times now!
by changing the brakes to 4 pots youll gain precisely nothing.
before you do anything else change your master cylinder;-)





just like to add that what ive just said is baring in mind that you have a problem with standard brakes ie: lack of them lol
if you have to stamp on the pedal (like no servo assist) and cars difficult to stop then its highly likely that its the master cylinder at fault!

what i do not mean is that 4 pots are a waste of money:doh::-D
 
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fubar andy

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Mechanically I'd check that all seals are working and that fluid is not passing over them.

I'd also look at braded lines all round for better pedal fee, better performance pads front and rear and add some decent grooved discs - that should help.

I know when I moved up to the Wilwood 280mm kit that was still not coping with what I was throwing at them, but it was an improvement over standard.
 

olliecast

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those pics now confirm the next time i drive my pulsar with haste will be when i have my whte 6 point cage fitted (see you very soon kieron!! :-D)


Brakes wise, my evo 3 caliper with xp 10 pads in were better than my current 4 pot wilwood. However, i guess they`ll come alive when i change from the crappy standard pads.

All are strides above the standard setup though. I had ebc yellowstuff pads in my standard brakes, along with grooved discs they did improve, just not to a safe / acceptable standard in relation to the cars peformance.

Cheers,
ollie
 

darkyGTI-R

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I have standard break set up on 15" Enkeis with blue print pads on the front i'd just like to say I have no issues with my breaks.I am running around 260-280bhp and find standards more than adequate:)
 

Trondelond

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i know what you mean about overly crap brakes as weve come across it a few times now!
by changing the brakes to 4 pots youll gain precisely nothing.
before you do anything else change your master cylinder;-)





just like to add that what ive just said is baring in mind that you have a problem with standard brakes ie: lack of them lol
if you have to stamp on the pedal (like no servo assist) and cars difficult to stop then its highly likely that its the master cylinder at fault!

what i do not mean is that 4 pots are a waste of money:doh::-D
So you're not talking about an uprated item from say - a different car or anything? Just one that actually works?
Would hate for my 4-pot APs to be as bad as the OE ones. :p
 

Chris V

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I bid on those brakes on ebay i missed the end of auction tho:doh:, they went pretty cheap, could not figure out what make they were tho
 
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pulsarboby

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So you're not talking about an uprated item from say - a different car or anything? Just one that actually works?
Would hate for my 4-pot APs to be as bad as the OE ones. :p

no no no trond:doh:
the first guy stevie has a prob with his oe standard brakes!
basically hes saying that the brakes arent working as they should do on a standard pulsar brake setup

what im saying is that weve come across this before and its as though the vacuum assist is not working, in other words you have to put all your weight on the pedal to stop car which is not right even with the crap standard stoppies:lol:
in all 3 cases of this happening it was a faulty master cylinder that was the culprit
(thats assuming that the calipers are free and not binding of course, and seeing as hes overhauled them then i guess there ok)
 

Trondelond

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no no no trond:doh:
the first guy stevie has a prob with his oe standard brakes!
basically hes saying that the brakes arent working as they should do on a standard pulsar brake setup

what im saying is that weve come across this before and its as though the vacuum assist is not working, in other words you have to put all your weight on the pedal to stop car which is not right even with the crap standard stoppies:lol:
in all 3 cases of this happening it was a faulty master cylinder that was the culprit
(thats assuming that the calipers are free and not binding of course, and seeing as hes overhauled them then i guess there ok)
Calm down, I'm just making sure! :D
Besides, the OE brakes don't feel like they work when they do either. I was heartbroken when I took the car out after the rebuild, as I'd gotten used to the brakes on my Honda.

Interestingly, I was watching an episode of Best Motoring, with Tsuchiya driving an R34 NUR. I noticed that he double-pressed the brake pedal upon corner entry, and it made me wonder if all Nissan brakes have the same quality.
 

John

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Calm down, I'm just making sure! :D
Besides, the OE brakes don't feel like they work when they do either. I was heartbroken when I took the car out after the rebuild, as I'd gotten used to the brakes on my Honda.

Interestingly, I was watching an episode of Best Motoring, with Tsuchiya driving an R34 NUR. I noticed that he double-pressed the brake pedal upon corner entry, and it made me wonder if all Nissan brakes have the same quality.
Tsuchiya was probably just ensuring he had brakes when he entered the corner, im sure in one of his drift vids he explained why he did this however.

I know some race drivers do it to ensure they have the brakes when they need them as a confidence theing.
 
Tsuchiya was probably just ensuring he had brakes when he entered the corner, im sure in one of his drift vids he explained why he did this however.

I know some race drivers do it to ensure they have the brakes when they need them as a confidence theing.
Don't all racing drivers do this? I have a guy at work who used to rally escorts (Mk2's) and he said he used to bounce the front end a few times using short jabs to the brakes. The idea was that on the 3rd bounce he he would have all the weight over the front so there was more grip and better braking :?
Sounded odd to me but maybe he wasn't talking crap :lol:
 

Trondelond

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Don't all racing drivers do this? I have a guy at work who used to rally escorts (Mk2's) and he said he used to bounce the front end a few times using short jabs to the brakes. The idea was that on the 3rd bounce he he would have all the weight over the front so there was more grip and better braking :?
Sounded odd to me but maybe he wasn't talking crap :lol:
I'd think that all available weight would be transferred to the front anyway when you slammed the brakes the first time?
 
Well he said that by bouncing it you build up some inertia for when you finally hit the brakes hard. Slamming on the brakes shifts the weight forwards yes, but that occurs during braking and not before. If you brake whilst the front end is slamming down from the bounce... you have more force on the front wheels before you brake.
Makes sense i suppose..... hmmm.
 
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