Engine runs rich

OleH

New Member
Hi all,
I'm having issues with my Sunny :sad:

This is the engine:
- 400+ bhp
- thicker headgasket than standard
- front mounted big intercooler
- LINK ECU
- Garret 3071R turbo
- 1.5 bar turbo pressure
- sharper camshafts fitted
- ported headers
- thicker wires from the battery back to the fuel pump
- 3" exhaust from turbo and back

These are the symptons:
- The spark plugs get black after very few miles (500 at most)
- Fuel pressure is 4-4.5 bar, maybe even higher under heavy load
- Air/Fuel ratio is 11.4 on idle, even richer under load
- Engine runs very sluggish, power only kicks in when the turbo kicks in
- The exhaust spits small black drops
- There's a definite smell of gasoline

This is the troubleshooting I have done:
- Compression test. The figures were fine
- Changed the spark plugs, new ones also get black after a short while
- Pressurised the vacuum system. It held 2 bar without leaks
- Changed the oil and filter. It has not used any oil the last 750 miles
- No bubbling in the coolant expansion tank = headgasket is fine
- Ohm'ed the leads (the are standard leads)

Where do I start troubleshooting now?
 
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vss irvine

Well-Known Member
Does it run a maf or map sensor?

You need to look at the management and associated sensors.

Who mapped the car?
 

fubar andy

Moderator & N/W Rep
Staff member
Check your injectors are not stuck open too.

Listen to them when the engine is ticking over (put a screw driver on to the injector and the put your ear on the butt of the handle and you will hear a ticking noise)
 

PobodY

Moderators
Staff member
Check your injectors are not stuck open too.
Could that be more of a problem if you're running them at higher fuel pressure? - If it's 4-4.5bar at idle, and the boost pressure is 1.5bar; that's 5.5-6bar at full boost.

It just occurs to me that if the injector is designed to take 4-4.5bar at peak pressure (i.e. 3bar+1-1.5bar), maybe it's not coping with that at idle.
 

OleH

New Member
Check your injectors are not stuck open too.

Listen to them when the engine is ticking over (put a screw driver on to the injector and the put your ear on the butt of the handle and you will hear a ticking noise)
Thanks for the tip :)
 

OleH

New Member
Could that be more of a problem if you're running them at higher fuel pressure? - If it's 4-4.5bar at idle, and the boost pressure is 1.5bar; that's 5.5-6bar at full boost.

It just occurs to me that if the injector is designed to take 4-4.5bar at peak pressure (i.e. 3bar+1-1.5bar), maybe it's not coping with that at idle.
And the fuel pressure is regulated with the manual pressure regulator? Or is it done with the LINK system?
 

PobodY

Moderators
Staff member
Fuel pressure is regulated by the manual regulator, but it's not meant to be that high. - If Andy is suggesting there's an injector stuck open, I'm just wondering if it's because they can't take the fuel pressure.

Are they standard injectors or larger ones?
 

OleH

New Member
The guy who tuned the car 3 years ago, said I should change out the small fuelfilter that's under the car to a bigger filter. Can anyone explain where it is, as I've not found it yet??

Also, the fuel pressure was 3bar at idle 3 years ago after I got the car back from mapping. Now the pressure has creeped up to 4 bar... Bad fuel pressure regulator??
 
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OleH

New Member
Fuel pressure is regulated by the manual regulator, but it's not meant to be that high. - If Andy is suggesting there's an injector stuck open, I'm just wondering if it's because they can't take the fuel pressure.

Are they standard injectors or larger ones?
If I adjust the fuel pressure, do I have to adjust anything in the map?
 
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