bengilmore
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what I was thinkingFast Guy said:now race the Porsche side by side to see if the theory above holds up (more torque = more acceleration) ie you win
2006 BMW 330Di
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GTIRocks
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although i have never drove either of these i got mauled by a GTiR in my evo II (before its sad demise) and the R looked pretty standard ie no fmic ect ! imo there aint alot out there (that i have seen anyway) that will pull faster than a lil R. would love to see a 300+ R launch i assume its scarey/awsome/funny as hell. !!!!
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papdog
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bengilmore said:
Wouldn't stand a hope in hell, wouldn't even consider it!
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tro||
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for about 2000rpm.....lol
what some of you forget is its where you have your torque and for how long that is important
bet none of you knew that an electric milk float has far more torque than most cars due to its electric motor but is about as much use as a chocolate ****ing tea pot when it comes to going fast...lol
what some of you forget is its where you have your torque and for how long that is important
bet none of you knew that an electric milk float has far more torque than most cars due to its electric motor but is about as much use as a chocolate ****ing tea pot when it comes to going fast...lol
Cambridge_pulsar
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I can double the torque figure of my R simply by having the missus in the passenger seat :lol:
Agreed. Gear ratios and how long the car can hold them etc...... are also very important. The variables that make a car 'fast' are too numerous to count.tro|| said:for about 2000rpm.....lol
what some of you forget is its where you have your torque and for how long that is important
As has been said before, just because the car has more torque, doesn't mean it's faster. Look at F1 cars, they have very low peak torque figures but, they have a lot of 'space' under the torque curve. And they use the gears ratios to maximise that torque. It's the 'torque multiplyer' effect. The same/similar thing is true of the Honda Type R's. They all have fairly low peak torque figures but, they have a very wide 'flat' torque curve and high rev limit that is maximised by the gear ratios to make them fairly quick. Of course, as has been mentioned, the cars weight helps a great deal too.
Without 'in gear' acceleration times, it's difficult to judge how fast that BMW actually is but, going on the not overly impressive 0-60 time (remembering that rear wheel drive and all that torque should help it off the line fairly well), I would think a fairly mildly modded GTiR would keep up with it !
Even a standard GTiR would be well on it's way to 75 mph by the time the beemer hit's 60 mph, from a standing start, with a decent launch. With a free flow filter and decent exhaust (decat) the GTiR should be very responsive on the move so, if it's in the right gear, with the turbo boosting, the GTiR will hold it's own at the very least !
All theoretical of course !
BMW driver assasinations aside and beside the fact I love performance diesels, given your criteria I'm actually with Carl on this one. It does 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds which is slower than a 1 Bar R whether standing start or rolling. Round some twisty A-Roads, that same 1 Bar R would be lighter and still have more power. The diesel would win on a motorway where you are cruising, put your foot down and just go.stevepudney said:
Diesels are fantatsic in gear for fast paced A to B driving on the road. I agree with Lou Rob that the Seat Ibiza Cupra diesel is one of the most underrated cars on the road.
I think that press relaease is written by a BMW PR guy anyway. VAG and Merc are both superior IMO. The equivalent Merc 320 is stronger and smoother as stock and Audi just proved their capability by winning Le Mans.
Hmmm, I've had a go at a Tuscan Speed Six at those sort of speeds and he wasn't going anywhere. Similar thing with a 993 Carrera 4 except, I almost ran into the back of him when I got into 3rd as I was accelerating so much faster than his 911 and mines only got basic breathing mods (Blitz filter with 100mm cold air feed, Hayward & Scott 3" elbow to 3" downpipe to 2.5" cat back system and AVC-R set to 1.00 KG/cm plus some other small bits to improve efficiency etc...)steve963 said:
What mods do you have ?
LOU ROB
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I'm taking mine in to JBS Auto designs To get her custom code re-mapped to 210 bhp and 320 lbs of torquecampbellju said:
LOU ROB
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To do that, he's had a little bit more than just a re-map :roll:
This is what jabba promise power wise to a fabian after a re-map http://www.jabbasport.com/vehicle_preview.asp?variantid=58
This is what jabba promise power wise to a fabian after a re-map http://www.jabbasport.com/vehicle_preview.asp?variantid=58